[windev] First-Chance exception ... End ?

Serge Wautier serge at wautier.net
Sun Jan 4 22:39:57 GMT 2009


In the last couple of years, my AV triggered a couple of false positives.
But it kept silent the only time it should actually have yelled!

Therefore, on my new laptop I decided to try a new strategy: No AV! We'll
see if UAC is strong enough to keep me alive :-)

Serge.
http://www.apptranslator.com



> -----Original Message-----
> From: windev-bounces at windev.org [mailto:windev-bounces at windev.org] On
> Behalf Of Mark McGinty
> Sent: jeudi 25 décembre 2008 18:32
> To: 'Thierry Marneffe'; truckleaj-windev at yahoo.co.uk; 'Drew'; 'Windev'
> Subject: Re: [windev] First-Chance exception ... End ?
> 
> AV designers, it seems, have either decided it's impossible for them to
> accommodate legitimate developers (so they don't even try), or they
> simply
> don't care.
> 
> Norton AV used to disable all script by default -- very nice.  Symantec
> enterprise AV's file-system protection absolutely kills VSS performance
> over
> a WAN link (by exponentially increasing network i/o.) MS Antimalware
> has
> kittens if you change your HOSTS file, as if the file has no valid
> uses.
> 
> And very recently, Kapersky AV "identified" one of *my* ASP scripts as
> containing some named virus!  It didn't say "could be infected" or
> "looks
> suspicious" it said **my** script (that I wrote for a client, no
> freaking
> less) "this file IS infected."  Unbelievable!
> 
> As if the cost of AV software with updates isn't enough, imagine what
> it
> costs us in terms of system performance, time, frustration and
> undeserved
> embarrassment.
> 
> Here's a quasi-relevant link... :-)
> 
> http://www.thinkset.com/thinkset/Cb-iR(s!D).html
> 
> 
> Merry [culture-neutral seasonal holiday], everybody!
> 
> 
> 
> -Mark
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: windev-bounces at windev.org
> > [mailto:windev-bounces at windev.org] On Behalf Of Thierry Marneffe
> > Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 3:41 AM
> > To: truckleaj-windev at yahoo.co.uk; Drew; 'Windev'
> > Subject: [windev] First-Chance exception ... End ?
> >
> > I check your idea about anti-virus interference. I build the
> > application on a laptop configured quite differently. When I
> > test the application, no more messages... I transfered the
> > application from my laptop to my computer and tested it.. The
> > messages appeared again ... Looks like the guilty code is
> > outside my app ....
> >
> > Thanks for your help !!!
> >
> > I wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year .....
> >
> > Thierry
> >
> > EMail: thierry.marneffe at skynet.be
> > Web: www.tgmdev.be
> > Download Isanaki 2.3 at www.tgmdev.be, the last version of
> > Isanaki, a free Sudoku and Wordoku Generator, Solver and Helper ...
> > Download KillProcess 2.0 at www.tgmdev.be, the last version
> > of KillProcess, a free utilities to kill any Windows XP
> > process or services  ...
> >
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Thierry Marneffe
> >   To: truckleaj-windev at yahoo.co.uk ; Drew
> >   Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 7:34 PM
> >   Subject: Re: [windev] First-Chance exception
> >
> >
> >
> >   Hello
> >
> >   I rush to try but this is not the root cause of those messages ...
> >
> >   Strange enough, the messages start to appear when I open
> > the dialog box with the call of CFileDialog and then they
> > continue to appear even when the dialog box is closed...
> >
> >   This is driving me mad !!!
> >
> >   Thierry
> >
> >   EMail: thierry.marneffe at skynet.be
> >   Web: www.tgmdev.be
> >   Download Isanaki 2.3 at www.tgmdev.be, the last version of
> > Isanaki, a free Sudoku and Wordoku Generator, Solver and Helper ...
> >   Download KillProcess 2.0 at www.tgmdev.be, the last version
> > of KillProcess, a free utilities to kill any Windows XP
> > process or services  ...
> >
> >     ----- Original Message -----
> >     From: truckleaj-windev at yahoo.co.uk
> >     To: Thierry Marneffe
> >     Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 9:01 AM
> >     Subject: Re: [windev] First-Chance exception
> >
> >
> >     Isn't your file filter supposed to end with two verticals? ||"
> >
> >     Andrew
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > --------------
> >     From: Thierry Marneffe <Thierry.Marneffe at skynet.be>
> >     To: Drew <drew.myers at esrd.com>; windev at windev.org
> >     Sent: Monday, 22 December, 2008 23:00:48
> >     Subject: Re: [windev] First-Chance exception
> >
> >
> >     Hello Drew
> >
> >     Basically, I add  a multi-lingual feature. The
> > application can switch from
> >     english to french... But it does not looks as the guilty code
> !!!!
> >
> >     When I run the applicaiton, nothing happens but as soon
> > as I open a given
> >     dialog box, the messages appear .... In this dialog box,
> > the user needs to
> >     browse for files so the program opens the dialogbox
> > automatically .....
> >
> >     The code is quite classical ....
> >
> >             CString strDefExt = ".txt .msk .sdk .sol .spf .ss";
> >             CString strFilter =
> >                 "Sudoku Files (.txt .msk .sdk .sol .spf
> >     .ss)|*.txt;*.msk;*.sdk;*.sol;*.spf;*.ss|Text Files
> (.txt)|*.txt|";
> >
> >             CFileDialog dlg( TRUE, strDefExt, NULL, OFN_EXPLORER |
> >     OFN_FILEMUSTEXIST, strFilter, this);
> >
> >     !!!!!!!!!!! From here I just wait and the messages appear
> > !!!!!!!!!!!
> >     Messages start here !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> >     Here are the messages afterwards
> >
> >     Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\clbcatq.dll', no matching
> > symbolic information
> >     found.
> >     Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\comres.dll', no matching
> > symbolic information
> >     found.
> >     Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\version.dll', no matching
> > symbolic information
> >     found.
> >     Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\cscui.dll', no matching
> > symbolic information
> >     found.
> >     Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\cscdll.dll', no matching
> > symbolic information
> >     found.
> >     Loaded 'C:\Program Files\Fichiers communs\Symantec
> >     Shared\Backup\buShell.dll', no matching symbolic
> > information found.
> >     Loaded
> >
> > 'C:\WINDOWS\WinSxS\x86_Microsoft.VC80.CRT_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_8.0
> .50727.1433_x-ww_5cf844d2\msvcr80.dll',
> >     no matching symbolic information found.
> >     Loaded 'C:\Program Files\Fichiers communs\Symantec
> > Shared\CCL70U.DLL', no
> >     matching symbolic information found.
> >     Loaded
> >
> > 'C:\WINDOWS\WinSxS\x86_Microsoft.VC80.CRT_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_8.0
> .50727.1433_x-ww_5cf844d2\msvcp80.dll',
> >     no matching symbolic information found.
> >     Loaded 'C:\Program Files\Fichiers communs\Symantec
> > Shared\CCVRTRST.DLL', no
> >     matching symbolic information found.
> >     Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\setupapi.dll', no matching
> > symbolic information
> >     found.
> >     Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\crypt32.dll', no matching
> > symbolic information
> >     found.
> >     Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\msasn1.dll', no matching
> > symbolic information
> >     found.
> >     Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\wintrust.dll', no matching
> > symbolic information
> >     found.
> >     Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\imagehlp.dll', no matching
> > symbolic information
> >     found.
> >     Loaded 'C:\Program Files\Fichiers communs\Symantec
> > Shared\CCSET.DLL', no
> >     matching symbolic information found.
> >     Loaded 'C:\Program Files\Fichiers communs\Symantec
> > Shared\CCIPC.DLL', no
> >     matching symbolic information found.
> >     Loaded 'C:\Program Files\SmartFTP
> > Client\sfShellTools.dll', no matching
> >     symbolic information found.
> >     Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\browseui.dll', no matching
> > symbolic information
> >     found.
> >     Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\userenv.dll', no matching
> > symbolic information
> >     found.
> >     Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\mlang.dll', no matching
> > symbolic information
> >     found.
> >     Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\ntshrui.dll', no matching
> > symbolic information
> >     found.
> >     Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\atl.dll', no matching
> > symbolic information
> >     found.
> >     Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\netapi32.dll', no matching
> > symbolic information
> >     found.
> >     Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\shdocvw.dll', no matching
> > symbolic information
> >     found.
> >     Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\cryptui.dll', no matching
> > symbolic information
> >     found.
> >     Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\wininet.dll', no matching
> > symbolic information
> >     found.
> >     Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\normaliz.dll', no matching
> > symbolic information
> >     found.
> >     Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\iertutil.dll', no matching
> > symbolic information
> >     found.
> >     Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\wldap32.dll', no matching
> > symbolic information
> >     found.
> >     Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\riched20.dll', no matching
> > symbolic information
> >     found.
> >     Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\xpsp2res.dll', no matching
> > symbolic information
> >     found.
> >     Loaded 'C:\Program Files\Fichiers
> >     communs\Adobe\Acrobat\ActiveX\pdfshell.dll', no matching symbolic
> >     information found.
> >     Loaded 'C:\Program Files\Fichiers
> >     communs\Adobe\Acrobat\ActiveX\pdfshell.FRA', no matching symbolic
> >     information found.
> >     Loaded 'C:\Program Files\Fichiers communs\Symantec
> >     Shared\AppCore\AppMgr32.dll', no matching symbolic
> > information found.
> >
> >     The thread 0x95C has exited with code 0 (0x0).
> >     The thread 0xE30 has exited with code 0 (0x0).
> >     The thread 0x830 has exited with code 0 (0x0).
> >     First-chance exception in Isanaki.exe (KERNEL32.DLL):
> > 0xE06D7363: Microsoft
> >     C++ Exception.
> >     The thread 0x598 has exited with code 0 (0x0).
> >     The thread 0xF1C has exited with code 0 (0x0).
> >     First-chance exception in Isanaki.exe (KERNEL32.DLL):
> > 0xE06D7363: Microsoft
> >     C++ Exception.
> >     First-chance exception in Isanaki.exe (KERNEL32.DLL):
> > 0xE06D7363: Microsoft
> >     C++ Exception.
> >
> >     Thierry
> >
> >     EMail: thierry.marneffe at skynet.be
> >     Web: www.tgmdev.be
> >     Download Isanaki 2.3 at www.tgmdev.be, the last version
> > of Isanaki, a free
> >     Sudoku and Wordoku Generator, Solver and Helper ...
> >     Download KillProcess 2.0 at www.tgmdev.be, the last
> > version of KillProcess,
> >     a free utilities to kill any Windows XP process or services  ...
> >
> >     ----- Original Message -----
> >     From: "Drew" <drew.myers at esrd.com>
> >     To: <windev at windev.org>
> >     Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 5:12 PM
> >     Subject: Re: [windev] First-Chance exception
> >
> >
> >     >
> >     > It looks like your anti-virus software is interfering
> > with your process.
> >     > Try disabling it.  How exactly did you modify your application?
> >     >
> >     > Drew
> >     >
> >     > -----Original Message-----
> >     > From: windev-bounces at windev.org
> > [mailto:windev-bounces at windev.org] On
> >     > Behalf
> >     > Of Thierry Marneffe
> >     > Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 4:13 PM
> >     > To: windev at windev.org
> >     > Subject: [windev] First-Chance exception
> >     >
> >     > Hello
> >     >
> >     > After modifying an application for multi-language
> > support, I got the
> >     > following output in Debug mode.This warning appears ten
> > of times after I
> >     > open a quite standard dialog box. Just waiting a while
> > and the messages
> >     > appear ....No harmfull effect in debug and release mode
> > .. Just annoying
> >     > messages
> >     >
> >     > First-chance exception in Isanaki.exe (KERNEL32.DLL):
> > 0xE06D7363:
> >     > Microsoft
> >     > C++ Exception.
> >     >
> >     > I change the handling for this exception and got the
> > following output on
> >     > the
> >     >
> >     > debugger:
> >     >
> >     > KERNEL32! 7c812aeb()
> >     > MSVCR80! 78158e89()
> >     > APPMGR32! 6fb66e52()
> >     > APPMGR32! 6fb7e7e1()
> >     > APPMGR32! 6fb67a5e()
> >     > APPMGR32! 6fb8482a()
> >     > BUSHELL! 6ed8a2c7()
> >     > BUSHELL! 6ed8a36e()
> >     > BUSHELL! 6ed88355()
> >     > 00192460()
> >     > CCL70U! 6b192081()
> >     >
> >     > I have no idea how to correct this as the problem
> > appears far from my app
> >     > .... Debugger shows assembly code and I cannot
> > interpret this ..... Any
> >     > idea
> >     >
> >     > how to get a clue about the culprit code ?
> >     > Thanks for your help ..
> >     >
> >     > Thierry
> >     >
> >     > EMail: thierry.marneffe at skynet.be
> >     > Web: www.tgmdev.be
> >     > Download Isanaki 2.3 at www.tgmdev.be, the last version
> > of Isanaki, a free
> >     > Sudoku and Wordoku Generator, Solver and Helper ...
> >     > Download KillProcess 2.0 at www.tgmdev.be, the last version of
> >     > KillProcess,
> >     > a free utilities to kill any Windows XP process or services
> ...
> >     >
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