[windev] First-Chance exception ... End ?

Mark McGinty mmcginty at dbunwired.com
Thu Dec 25 17:32:19 GMT 2008


AV designers, it seems, have either decided it's impossible for them to
accommodate legitimate developers (so they don't even try), or they simply
don't care.  

Norton AV used to disable all script by default -- very nice.  Symantec
enterprise AV's file-system protection absolutely kills VSS performance over
a WAN link (by exponentially increasing network i/o.) MS Antimalware has
kittens if you change your HOSTS file, as if the file has no valid uses.  

And very recently, Kapersky AV "identified" one of *my* ASP scripts as
containing some named virus!  It didn't say "could be infected" or "looks
suspicious" it said **my** script (that I wrote for a client, no freaking
less) "this file IS infected."  Unbelievable!

As if the cost of AV software with updates isn't enough, imagine what it
costs us in terms of system performance, time, frustration and undeserved
embarrassment.

Here's a quasi-relevant link... :-)

http://www.thinkset.com/thinkset/Cb-iR(s!D).html
 

Merry [culture-neutral seasonal holiday], everybody!  



-Mark







> -----Original Message-----
> From: windev-bounces at windev.org 
> [mailto:windev-bounces at windev.org] On Behalf Of Thierry Marneffe
> Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 3:41 AM
> To: truckleaj-windev at yahoo.co.uk; Drew; 'Windev'
> Subject: [windev] First-Chance exception ... End ?
> 
> I check your idea about anti-virus interference. I build the 
> application on a laptop configured quite differently. When I 
> test the application, no more messages... I transfered the 
> application from my laptop to my computer and tested it.. The 
> messages appeared again ... Looks like the guilty code is 
> outside my app .... 
> 
> Thanks for your help !!!   
> 
> I wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year .....
> 
> Thierry
> 
> EMail: thierry.marneffe at skynet.be
> Web: www.tgmdev.be
> Download Isanaki 2.3 at www.tgmdev.be, the last version of 
> Isanaki, a free Sudoku and Wordoku Generator, Solver and Helper ...
> Download KillProcess 2.0 at www.tgmdev.be, the last version 
> of KillProcess, a free utilities to kill any Windows XP 
> process or services  ...
> 
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Thierry Marneffe
>   To: truckleaj-windev at yahoo.co.uk ; Drew
>   Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 7:34 PM
>   Subject: Re: [windev] First-Chance exception
> 
> 
> 
>   Hello
> 
>   I rush to try but this is not the root cause of those messages ...
> 
>   Strange enough, the messages start to appear when I open 
> the dialog box with the call of CFileDialog and then they 
> continue to appear even when the dialog box is closed... 
> 
>   This is driving me mad !!!
> 
>   Thierry
> 
>   EMail: thierry.marneffe at skynet.be
>   Web: www.tgmdev.be
>   Download Isanaki 2.3 at www.tgmdev.be, the last version of 
> Isanaki, a free Sudoku and Wordoku Generator, Solver and Helper ...
>   Download KillProcess 2.0 at www.tgmdev.be, the last version 
> of KillProcess, a free utilities to kill any Windows XP 
> process or services  ...
> 
>     ----- Original Message ----- 
>     From: truckleaj-windev at yahoo.co.uk 
>     To: Thierry Marneffe 
>     Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 9:01 AM
>     Subject: Re: [windev] First-Chance exception
> 
> 
>     Isn't your file filter supposed to end with two verticals? ||"
> 
>     Andrew
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> --------------
>     From: Thierry Marneffe <Thierry.Marneffe at skynet.be>
>     To: Drew <drew.myers at esrd.com>; windev at windev.org
>     Sent: Monday, 22 December, 2008 23:00:48
>     Subject: Re: [windev] First-Chance exception
> 
> 
>     Hello Drew
> 
>     Basically, I add  a multi-lingual feature. The 
> application can switch from 
>     english to french... But it does not looks as the guilty code !!!!
> 
>     When I run the applicaiton, nothing happens but as soon 
> as I open a given 
>     dialog box, the messages appear .... In this dialog box, 
> the user needs to 
>     browse for files so the program opens the dialogbox 
> automatically .....
> 
>     The code is quite classical ....
> 
>             CString strDefExt = ".txt .msk .sdk .sol .spf .ss";
>             CString strFilter =
>                 "Sudoku Files (.txt .msk .sdk .sol .spf 
>     .ss)|*.txt;*.msk;*.sdk;*.sol;*.spf;*.ss|Text Files (.txt)|*.txt|";
> 
>             CFileDialog dlg( TRUE, strDefExt, NULL, OFN_EXPLORER | 
>     OFN_FILEMUSTEXIST, strFilter, this);
> 
>     !!!!!!!!!!! From here I just wait and the messages appear 
> !!!!!!!!!!! 
>     Messages start here !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> 
>     Here are the messages afterwards
> 
>     Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\clbcatq.dll', no matching 
> symbolic information 
>     found.
>     Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\comres.dll', no matching 
> symbolic information 
>     found.
>     Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\version.dll', no matching 
> symbolic information 
>     found.
>     Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\cscui.dll', no matching 
> symbolic information 
>     found.
>     Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\cscdll.dll', no matching 
> symbolic information 
>     found.
>     Loaded 'C:\Program Files\Fichiers communs\Symantec 
>     Shared\Backup\buShell.dll', no matching symbolic 
> information found.
>     Loaded 
>     
> 'C:\WINDOWS\WinSxS\x86_Microsoft.VC80.CRT_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_8.0
.50727.1433_x-ww_5cf844d2\msvcr80.dll', 
>     no matching symbolic information found.
>     Loaded 'C:\Program Files\Fichiers communs\Symantec 
> Shared\CCL70U.DLL', no 
>     matching symbolic information found.
>     Loaded 
>     
> 'C:\WINDOWS\WinSxS\x86_Microsoft.VC80.CRT_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_8.0
.50727.1433_x-ww_5cf844d2\msvcp80.dll', 
>     no matching symbolic information found.
>     Loaded 'C:\Program Files\Fichiers communs\Symantec 
> Shared\CCVRTRST.DLL', no 
>     matching symbolic information found.
>     Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\setupapi.dll', no matching 
> symbolic information 
>     found.
>     Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\crypt32.dll', no matching 
> symbolic information 
>     found.
>     Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\msasn1.dll', no matching 
> symbolic information 
>     found.
>     Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\wintrust.dll', no matching 
> symbolic information 
>     found.
>     Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\imagehlp.dll', no matching 
> symbolic information 
>     found.
>     Loaded 'C:\Program Files\Fichiers communs\Symantec 
> Shared\CCSET.DLL', no 
>     matching symbolic information found.
>     Loaded 'C:\Program Files\Fichiers communs\Symantec 
> Shared\CCIPC.DLL', no 
>     matching symbolic information found.
>     Loaded 'C:\Program Files\SmartFTP 
> Client\sfShellTools.dll', no matching 
>     symbolic information found.
>     Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\browseui.dll', no matching 
> symbolic information 
>     found.
>     Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\userenv.dll', no matching 
> symbolic information 
>     found.
>     Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\mlang.dll', no matching 
> symbolic information 
>     found.
>     Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\ntshrui.dll', no matching 
> symbolic information 
>     found.
>     Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\atl.dll', no matching 
> symbolic information 
>     found.
>     Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\netapi32.dll', no matching 
> symbolic information 
>     found.
>     Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\shdocvw.dll', no matching 
> symbolic information 
>     found.
>     Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\cryptui.dll', no matching 
> symbolic information 
>     found.
>     Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\wininet.dll', no matching 
> symbolic information 
>     found.
>     Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\normaliz.dll', no matching 
> symbolic information 
>     found.
>     Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\iertutil.dll', no matching 
> symbolic information 
>     found.
>     Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\wldap32.dll', no matching 
> symbolic information 
>     found.
>     Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\riched20.dll', no matching 
> symbolic information 
>     found.
>     Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\xpsp2res.dll', no matching 
> symbolic information 
>     found.
>     Loaded 'C:\Program Files\Fichiers 
>     communs\Adobe\Acrobat\ActiveX\pdfshell.dll', no matching symbolic 
>     information found.
>     Loaded 'C:\Program Files\Fichiers 
>     communs\Adobe\Acrobat\ActiveX\pdfshell.FRA', no matching symbolic 
>     information found.
>     Loaded 'C:\Program Files\Fichiers communs\Symantec 
>     Shared\AppCore\AppMgr32.dll', no matching symbolic 
> information found.
> 
>     The thread 0x95C has exited with code 0 (0x0).
>     The thread 0xE30 has exited with code 0 (0x0).
>     The thread 0x830 has exited with code 0 (0x0).
>     First-chance exception in Isanaki.exe (KERNEL32.DLL): 
> 0xE06D7363: Microsoft 
>     C++ Exception.
>     The thread 0x598 has exited with code 0 (0x0).
>     The thread 0xF1C has exited with code 0 (0x0).
>     First-chance exception in Isanaki.exe (KERNEL32.DLL): 
> 0xE06D7363: Microsoft 
>     C++ Exception.
>     First-chance exception in Isanaki.exe (KERNEL32.DLL): 
> 0xE06D7363: Microsoft 
>     C++ Exception.
> 
>     Thierry
> 
>     EMail: thierry.marneffe at skynet.be
>     Web: www.tgmdev.be
>     Download Isanaki 2.3 at www.tgmdev.be, the last version 
> of Isanaki, a free 
>     Sudoku and Wordoku Generator, Solver and Helper ...
>     Download KillProcess 2.0 at www.tgmdev.be, the last 
> version of KillProcess, 
>     a free utilities to kill any Windows XP process or services  ...
> 
>     ----- Original Message ----- 
>     From: "Drew" <drew.myers at esrd.com>
>     To: <windev at windev.org>
>     Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 5:12 PM
>     Subject: Re: [windev] First-Chance exception
> 
> 
>     >
>     > It looks like your anti-virus software is interfering 
> with your process.
>     > Try disabling it.  How exactly did you modify your application?
>     >
>     > Drew
>     >
>     > -----Original Message-----
>     > From: windev-bounces at windev.org 
> [mailto:windev-bounces at windev.org] On 
>     > Behalf
>     > Of Thierry Marneffe
>     > Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 4:13 PM
>     > To: windev at windev.org
>     > Subject: [windev] First-Chance exception
>     >
>     > Hello
>     >
>     > After modifying an application for multi-language 
> support, I got the
>     > following output in Debug mode.This warning appears ten 
> of times after I
>     > open a quite standard dialog box. Just waiting a while 
> and the messages
>     > appear ....No harmfull effect in debug and release mode 
> .. Just annoying
>     > messages
>     >
>     > First-chance exception in Isanaki.exe (KERNEL32.DLL): 
> 0xE06D7363: 
>     > Microsoft
>     > C++ Exception.
>     >
>     > I change the handling for this exception and got the 
> following output on 
>     > the
>     >
>     > debugger:
>     >
>     > KERNEL32! 7c812aeb()
>     > MSVCR80! 78158e89()
>     > APPMGR32! 6fb66e52()
>     > APPMGR32! 6fb7e7e1()
>     > APPMGR32! 6fb67a5e()
>     > APPMGR32! 6fb8482a()
>     > BUSHELL! 6ed8a2c7()
>     > BUSHELL! 6ed8a36e()
>     > BUSHELL! 6ed88355()
>     > 00192460()
>     > CCL70U! 6b192081()
>     >
>     > I have no idea how to correct this as the problem 
> appears far from my app
>     > .... Debugger shows assembly code and I cannot 
> interpret this ..... Any 
>     > idea
>     >
>     > how to get a clue about the culprit code ?
>     > Thanks for your help ..
>     >
>     > Thierry
>     >
>     > EMail: thierry.marneffe at skynet.be
>     > Web: www.tgmdev.be
>     > Download Isanaki 2.3 at www.tgmdev.be, the last version 
> of Isanaki, a free
>     > Sudoku and Wordoku Generator, Solver and Helper ...
>     > Download KillProcess 2.0 at www.tgmdev.be, the last version of 
>     > KillProcess,
>     > a free utilities to kill any Windows XP process or services  ...
>     >
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